Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 120

05/11/2007 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+ SB 97 ALASKA NATIVE ART IDENTIFICATION SEALS TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
*+ HB 255 DUAL SENTENCING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SB 141 LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANIES TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HJR 2 CONST.AM:NO GAMING WITHOUT VOTER APPROVAL TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHJR 2(JUD) Out of Committee
HB 255-DUAL SENTENCING                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:40:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  255,  "An  Act relating  to  dual sentencing  of                                                               
certain   juvenile   offenders;   amending  Rule   24.1,   Alaska                                                               
Delinquency Rules; and providing for an effective date."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:41:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEANNE  OSTNES, Staff  to  Representative  Craig Johnson,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature, on  behalf of  Representative Craig  Johnson,                                                               
sponsor,  explained  that HB  255  proposes  to expand  the  dual                                                               
sentencing  provisions for  juvenile delinquency  statutes.   She                                                               
referred  to Section  1, subsection  (a), and  indicated that  it                                                               
clarifies [when dual sentencing  would be considered], and brings                                                               
in   some  specific   age   ranges.     She   indicated  that   a                                                               
representative from the Department  of Health and Social Services                                                               
(DHSS) is available to provide more details.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HOLMES  mentioned she did  not see any  letters of                                                               
support  in  the  bill  packet,  and  asked  if  there  would  be                                                               
testimony from agencies on the bill.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.OSTNES explained that a representative  from the Department of                                                               
Law  (DOL)  had planned  on  being  present  but left  to  attend                                                               
another hearing.  She offered to  compile a list of questions for                                                               
the DOL to review.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:43:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANTHONY  NEWMAN, Social  Services  Program  Officer, Division  of                                                               
Juvenile Justice (DJJ), Department  of Health and Social Services                                                               
(DHSS), stated  that Ms. Ostnes  met with the  division director,                                                               
Steve  McComb, and  Representative Johnson  several weeks  ago to                                                               
discuss  their  concerns with  juvenile  sentencing.   While  the                                                               
division has seen an overall  decrease in referrals of delinquent                                                               
juveniles to the  agency in the past several  years, the division                                                               
finds  unacceptable  levels  in  the  number  of  felony  crimes,                                                               
weapons crimes,  and gang-related  violence.  Some  youths finish                                                               
their  sentence  at  McLaughlin  Youth  Center,  or  other  youth                                                               
centers,  but remain  a public  safety concern.   However,  these                                                               
juveniles  are no  longer monitored  once they  reach the  age of                                                               
majority at 19 years of age and drop out of the juvenile system.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEWMAN said  that  the staff  at  these juvenile  correction                                                               
facilities often  recognize the potential danger  from individual                                                               
juveniles  being released  from their  facility.   Some of  those                                                               
youth  offenders  continue  criminal  activity as  adults.    The                                                               
agency has  looked for  some means to  provide for  public safety                                                               
and monitor  these repeat offenders.   This has lead to  a review                                                               
of the dual  sentencing law, under AS 47.12.065  and AS 47.12.120                                                               
and was the  basis for developing SB 141.   The bill's concept is                                                               
that a  juvenile can  receive both a  juvenile [sentence]  and an                                                               
adult  sentence  for  committing  certain offenses.    The  adult                                                               
sentence is  only triggered when  the juvenile has failed  in the                                                               
juvenile system in some way,  either by committing another felony                                                               
crime,  escaping  the  facility,  or failing  to  meet  treatment                                                               
goals.  He  went on to explain that one  problem with the current                                                               
dual  sentencing laws  is that  the  criteria that  would make  a                                                               
youth  eligible for  dual sentencing  provisions is  so stringent                                                               
that it is  almost never used as an option.   In reviewing agency                                                               
statistics,  dual sentencing  provisions were  used in  only four                                                               
instances in  ten years, with  only one instance wherein  a youth                                                               
offender was sanctioned in the adult system.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEWMAN  stated that under HB  255, the types of  offenses and                                                               
ages  of juveniles  eligible  would be  expanded.   The  division                                                               
estimates  that about  55 more  juveniles would  be eligible  for                                                               
dual sentencing.   The department or the  district attorney might                                                               
determine that some juveniles are  not appropriate candidates for                                                               
dual sentencing, so  the actual number of  juveniles referred for                                                               
dual  sentencing  might prove  significantly  less.   Still,  the                                                               
division  believes that  expanding the  dual sentencing  adds one                                                               
more option to help ensure public  safety.  He explained that the                                                               
division also believes  that HB 255 could help  enable the agency                                                               
provide   seriously   dangerous   juvenile  offenders   with   an                                                               
opportunity  and motivation  to succeed  in the  juvenile justice                                                               
system.  He  offered his hope that the division  would be able to                                                               
provide a range  of options with how youth who  do not respond to                                                               
juvenile services  can be dealt  with, for example,  ensuring the                                                               
possibility  of  suspended  sentences and  probation  instead  of                                                               
prison.  The division also hopes  that the bill would require the                                                               
division  to do  a  better job  of  understanding and  justifying                                                               
treatment  that juveniles  receive in  facilities; and  will help                                                               
the  division to  question  why the  treatment  has succeeded  or                                                               
failed, and whether there is a  need to recommend transfer of the                                                               
juvenile to the adult system.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEWMAN  stated the  division has a  number of  concerns about                                                               
the bill as it is currently written.   For one thing, it needs to                                                               
ensure  that younger  juveniles  are not  bumped  into the  adult                                                               
system  prematurely.   He said  he felt  initially that  the bill                                                               
intended to put 12-year-olds into  the adult system, which is not                                                               
the  intention  of the  division  or  the  bill's sponsor.    The                                                               
division also  thinks it needs to  be clear that youth  under the                                                               
age of 16 or  17 won't be placed in adult  prison until they have                                                               
been given  the chance to  succeed in  the juvenile system.   The                                                               
bill additionally needs  to clarify how a  youth who successfully                                                               
completes juvenile  treatment can  avoid the adult  sentence, and                                                               
the age limits and offense  types still need significant scrutiny                                                               
from   law    enforcement   personnel,    criminal   prosecutors,                                                               
correctional  officers, public  defenders,  and the  courts.   In                                                               
closing, the  division does not  want to  see any juvenile  go to                                                               
adult  jail.   Division staff  views keeping  kids from  becoming                                                               
adult criminals  as the  most important  and rewarding  aspect of                                                               
their  jobs.   The evidence  solidly supports  that the  juvenile                                                               
system  provides  the best  outcome  to  help juvenile  offenders                                                               
avoid  a  life  of  crime  and victimizing  others.    While  the                                                               
division wants to continue to  work to help juveniles to succeed,                                                               
the  division also  has a  duty to  protect public  safety.   For                                                               
these reasons,  the division thinks HB  255 merits consideration,                                                               
he added.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:48:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS asked  what the recidivism rate  is amongst juvenile                                                               
offenders, and  also what the  recidivism rate is for  those that                                                               
re-offend as adults.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEWMAN  responded  that  it depends  on  the  definition  of                                                               
recidivism that's  used, but the  division defines  recidivism as                                                               
those who  re-offend in either  the juvenile or the  adult system                                                               
within  a year  of their  release from  a treatment  facility, or                                                               
within a  year from  their release from  formal probation.   That                                                               
recidivism rate is 28 percent.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS noted that the  recidivism rate is considerably less                                                               
than the recidivism rate of adults, which is about 66 percent.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OSTNES  reaffirmed that  the  adult  recidivism rate  is  66                                                               
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS expressed that this  bill provides an opportunity to                                                               
rescue a significant part of  the juvenile offender population so                                                               
that these  offenders don't repeat  in either of the  juvenile or                                                               
adult system  during a  one year  increment.   He asked  if there                                                               
were any other increment used to measure recidivism.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEWMAN  responded that  the  agency  did not  currently  use                                                               
another  increment   to  measure  recidivism.     Previously  the                                                               
division used a two-year increment  but has since chosen to align                                                               
with the standard window used by other states.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:50:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS surmised  that if a juvenile offended at  the age of                                                               
15 but  did not offend  again until  he/she was 19,  the juvenile                                                               
would not fall into the statistical captured demographic.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEWMAN  responded that in some  instances, juvenile offenders                                                               
would  not be  captured in  the division's  statistics, but  that                                                               
most  juvenile offenders  who re-offend  tend  to commit  further                                                               
crimes sooner, if they are to re-offend at all.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS  indicated that he requested  the Division                                                               
of  Legislative  Audit  to research  all  recidivism  rates  with                                                               
different  standards  since  different agencies  and  groups  use                                                               
different  rates.   He  suggested  the  when that  audit  becomes                                                               
public;  the  committee  could  hold  a  hearing  to  review  its                                                               
findings on recidivism, perhaps during the interim.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL added  that not  only are  the recidivism                                                               
rates for  juveniles and  adults worth  reviewing, but  that some                                                               
crimes are considered  more serious when committed by  16- to 18-                                                               
year-olds,  so that  dynamic should  be looked  at as  well.   He                                                               
noted that "aging out" still could be an issue.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS asked  what would be considered  a class B                                                               
felony crime against a person.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.OSTNES  responded a  class  B felony  crime  against a  person                                                               
could be assault in the second degree.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SAMUELS asked for  clarification of the definition                                                               
of assault in the second degree.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.NEWMAN stated that  he believed the difference had  to do with                                                               
whether or not a weapon was used.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:53:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS  offered his  understanding  that  about $5,000  in                                                               
discretionary  funds had  been allocated  to the  Fairbanks youth                                                               
facility, and  asked what kinds  of things might  be accomplished                                                               
with that funding.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEWMAN  responded that it would  not be enough funding  for a                                                               
renovation  or an  addition, but  it could  possibly be  spent on                                                               
more equipment, but he had also  heard that the facility needed a                                                               
climbing wall.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS  mentioned that  Bernard Gatewood,  Juvenile Justice                                                               
Superintendent  II,   had  indicated   the  facility   could  use                                                               
additional funds for cardiovascular  fitness equipment.  He asked                                                               
what might  best help to  strengthen the youths' spirit  and self                                                               
esteem.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEWMAN  suggested that  perhaps  the  most beneficial  thing                                                               
would be to enhance their job  skills.  One program that has been                                                               
developed has  been the  Culinary Arts  program and  perhaps that                                                               
could be enhanced.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. OSTNES  noted that one  high school teacher goes  from school                                                               
to the  youth facility  to provide training  on how  to interview                                                               
for jobs, and helps juveniles  prepare resumes so they can obtain                                                               
employment.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS suggested  that he  would mention  to Mr.  Gatewood                                                               
that  the  cardio equipment,  culinary  program,  and job  skills                                                               
enhancement would be good items  to consider using the funds for.                                                               
He indicated he, too, would  be interested in obtaining the audit                                                               
results on recidivism.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS indicated that HB 255 would be held over.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

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